Pontiff Subjection

In response to this last post, regarding, no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, Jane, wrote a letter, that you can find in the comments section of that post, this is my answer, with some personal comments left out.  I thought I'd share it, since, I can't post it as a comment...

Hi Jane,

Thank you again, for writing.  I'll make this simple.  Every Catholic that has been given a decent amount of reason, is bound by the Catholic Faith to believe and obey, the Ten Commandments, The Apostles Creed, and The Our Father, rightly understood.  It is that simple.  This is what is called, "common Dogma".  Meaning, all must believe these common Dogmas in order to be Catholic.  One of those "common Dogmas", which is part of these three things, is the salvation Dogma, where we recognize the need for the Church in order to attain Heaven.  You can see this, when in the Apostles Creed, we say:

I believe in the Catholic Church

Why even say this, if it mattered not whether we be Catholic, or not?????  It doesn't say, I believe in the Catholic Church, and the Protestant Church.  Do you see??  

We see this teaching of no salvation outside of the Catholic Church written of in the Ten Commandments, when God says:

I am the Lord thy God, you shall have no strange gods before me.

Every person who believes there is a way to Heaven besides that which God Himself has made, and He has only made, one way, and that is through His Church, which is His Body, breaks this commandment.  And, those who attend the Mass of those who publicly profess that there is no need of the Catholic Church, for the salvation of souls,In whatsoever way that Priest says so, breaks this commandment.  And, the breaking of one of the first four Commandments, is way more serious then the breaking of the last six, as the first four have to do with how we deal with God, therefore, breaking one of these Commandments, can put a person in the state of mortal sin..  A very dangerous place to be in.

And, lastly, we see the salvation Dogma written within the Our Father, when we say:

Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven..

Do you see?  God's Kingdom is the Church, and the way that God makes His will be known so that It can be done, is through this Church, the Church Militant, working together with the Church Victorious, and the Church Suffering, all those who rightly, call God Father, obeying the Real Pope who acts as the steward of His Church, whilst He is away.

Yes, I'm glad that you know that every creature must be subject to the Roman Pontiff, yet, you shoot yourself in the foot, so to speak when insisting on obeying the present anti-pope, who contradicts many earlier Popes, in matters of Faith and Morals, that are common Dogma that everyone who has, is and will be Catholic must believe...  Do you see??  While insisting that you must obey this present anti-pope, you must then, to be honest, disobey many, many past, Real Catholic Popes, who never lost their office due to public, notorious, pertinacious heresy, having to do with Faith and Morals, that all Catholics must know and believe in order to be Catholic.  But, not only this, in order to be honest and consistent, you would then, have to agree that Protestants cannot be saved, if they stay Protestants, since, they are not subject to the Roman Pontiff.  One way or another something has got to give.

Regarding Popes and Bishops being wrong, well, yes, there have been moments like this in the history of the Church, regarding matters of lesser import, not regarding matters of common Dogma, having to do with Faith and Morals, but, it is good to remember that when a Pope declares something, solemnly, and infallibly, he cannot be wrong.  That is one of the hugest reasons I am Catholic.  There is no other Church upon the Earth that carries with it the charism of Infallibility.  Meaning, when a Pope declares something, like the Athanasian Creed, or what was stated in "Unam Sanctum", or what was written within "Cantate Domino", using words, like declare, define, decree, or else you will be anathema, and on and on and on, in this way, then, all those who are really Catholic, must believe and obey what is being said within that solemn document.  That is how we can know exactly what we must or must not believe or do, in order to attain Heaven. Every solemn, infallible declaration, being true, now, yesterday, today and forever, since, the Church cannot invent a new Gospel, since She is the same always.  But, yes, there are disagreements, and arguments, but, never against what has already been infallibly defined and declared by a Pope this would render the office of Pope, mute.

Also, it is good to note that  there has been no solemn, infallibly defined, declaration, pouring forth from anyone in Vatican II, stating that we must believe that the Church is not necessary for salvation , or we will be anathema...  Don't get me wrong, there have been many, many, out right heretical statements, articles, books, actions and such, that make it easy to know that the present Pope is not, but, is actually, an anti-pope, because, he dares to contradict in matters of Faith and Morals, that have been "infallibly declared, defined and decreed"contradicting so many Holy Popes, who have left a beautiful legacy for us to inherit.

Jane, I do not think you are trying to be contentious..  I hear your concern,and I do understand.  I have been there, perhaps in not the very same way as you are now, but, I have had to travel the path of realization also.  And, realizing that the visible Church is in a terrible apostasy where most everyone who says they are Catholic, are not, even the hierarchy that are supposed to protect you from such things, well, that is no cake walk.  But, it is a walk that must be walked nonetheless, unless you are going to willfully deny the facts and truths that are right in front of your eyes, which is wrong, and is denying Christ.  Unfortunately, embracing God, in these times, involves, rejecting those who are supposed to be His representatives, which is difficult, but, necessary.  I'm sure your Priest is kind, and probably seems Christ like, but, you must take his words for what they are, which are plain and simple heresy.  And, any Catholic who continues to religiously participate with heretics, eventually, will end up in the state of mortal sin, because of their willful sin against God.