I haven't written too much on this blog, because, I'm busy. There is so much to do, thanks be to God! Our vocational and work lives have been going through many changes, so, we have had to make a lot of choices, praying for the Will of God to be known, while also keeping things going in our home.. It can be tough to know how to answer each vocation that God grants us. But, it is also a blessing to have so many vocations, when you think about it, and I'm not talking about myself. My vocation is to be a mother... Yet, my husband who is very talented, and gifted as a writer, has many, many vocations,like, writer , father and husband, to name a few. These three definitely keep him busy, that is for sure. But, the boat has been rockin', yet we know that we are in the hands of God, as always.. I say all this to say that, we have been very preoccupied, keeping busy with homeschooling, housekeeping, seeking Heaven and all those things we usually do each day.
Anyways, in my busyness, I was quite delighted to receive a letter. There were some questions inside, so, I thought, I'd turn my answer to her questions into a post.. Killing two birds with one stone, although, I don't usually kill birds, hee hee. That's my attempt at humor, I hope you enjoyed it. Anyways, here is my answer to her question,"Do we assume that Protestants are excluded from the Catholic Church, or salvation, when Protestant converts don't have to be re-baptized, when entering into the Catholic Church?"
Hi Jane,
Thank you for writing.. And, thank you for reading my posts, and for your kind
words. I also thank you for your question. I have also enjoyed your blog, very much.
Regarding who goes to Hell and who goes to Heaven, well, yes, we cannot know,
"infallibly", who goes to Heaven or Hell, that is true.. Yet, we can know what
the Church has taught us, "infallibly" . And, the Church has taught quite clearly that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, and when teaching this, Her teaching was infallible and solemn, meaning it is defide, and we must all believe it and act like we believe it, if we are to remain Catholic, if we were Catholic to begin with. If you want me to provide you with the many places this is taught, so that you can see for yourself where the Church has taught this, please let me know and I'll show you. But, even if we cannot know infallibly about where a person goes when they die outside of the Catholic Church, we can have, " moral certainty" that if a person is outside of the Catholic Church, and we know as much as we can possibly know, that they died in this state, not having converted to the Catholic Faith, Or if they died, Catholic, but, in mortal sin, outside of the state of Grace, this fact being public and knowable, then, we can have moral certainty that that person has gone to Hell.
And about Protestants being excluded.. Well, Protestants, are not Catholic. They are outside of the Catholic Church, because, even if their baptism was valid(and not all Protestants do baptize rightly, when they do bother to do so, so, if the former Protestant who is converting into the Catholic Church knows how they were baptized and it is plain that it was done wrongly, then, they need to be baptized again, or their soul is in danger of being Damned to Hell)most Protestants, immediately, after their baptism, fall right back into their Protestant heresies, that automatically excommunicate them from the Church they were baptized into, that is, if their Baptism was done correctly to begin with.Because, even if they SAY that they worship Jesus, the Jesus they worship is not the One True God, who created us all.. Each Protestant worships their own, private version of Jesus, whichever one they think they like the best. It can't be the One True God, whose Church is One Holy Apostolic and Catholic. And, it is necessary for the salvation of all souls to be joined with God and His Body, in order to even have the chance to save their very souls. so, yeah, as a rule, I don't enjoy assuming many things, but, when it comes to the Catholic Church, I can know that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, because, She says so, and even if some Protestant baptisms are valid, and some Protestant converts do not have to be baptized again, that leaves those who are not converting and who are remaining visibly outside of the Catholic Church. So, yes, I can assume that Protesants are excluded, since they, themselves have never actively, or visibly, included themselves into the Catholic Church. Visible conversion, is necessary, the only invisible Church, is the Church suffering and the Church Triumphant, those in Purgatory, and those in Heaven, thanks be to God!
Well, I hope I've answered your question clearly. I do look forward to hearing from you again, May the One Triune Catholic God, Bless you!
Paula
2 comments:
Thank you for clarifying your position. I talked to my pastor about this today and he refered me to this:
The Roman Catholic Church welcomes Protestants as brothers in Christ.
This is true since the Second Vatican Council. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “…one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [i.e., Protestant churches] that resulted from such separation and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers. All who have been justified by faith in baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.” (Paragraph 818)
In Christ,
Jane
I read much more of your blog and I realize that you know much more than I do about the history of the church and the changes of Vatican II. I am just not confident of judging the wise pope, cardinals, bishops and priests of Vatican II as being wrong and hereitical in their statements. I'll stick with believing my pastor and the writings of John Paul II, Pope Benedict and the current catechism.
In Christ,
Jane
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